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6.23.2008

More Year 2 Debating

I've decided to go with Beyond by HOD.

We will start julius 7th.

So this last week of AO Year 1, I'll used Math Mammoth and also next week as an in between, short week, we'll also continue with math and phonics and free reading.

Next moon day I'll place my order for the items we'll need to work Beyond.

A good friend gave me this advice:

I haven't seen the curriculum at all, but there is a summary of the religious beliefs of the pilgrims here:
http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/History/religion.php
They were certainly pro-Sunday, but most of the rest of the pagan feasts had been stripped away.

This is a quote from the Judaism 101 website:"Many Americans, upon seeing a decorated sukkah for the first time, remark on how much the sukkah (and the holiday generally) reminds them of Thanksgiving. This may not be entirely coincidental: I was taught that our American pilgrims, who originated the Thanksgiving holiday, borrowed the idea from Sukkot. The pilgrims were deeply religious people. When they were trying to find a way to express their thanks for their survival and for the harvest, they looked to the Bible for an appropriate way of celebrating and found Sukkot. This is not the standard story taught in public schools today (that a Thanksgiving holiday is an English custom that the Pilgrims brought over), but the Sukkot explanation of Thanksgiving fits better with the meticulous research of Mayflower historian Caleb Johnson, who believes that the original Thanksgiving was a harvest festival (as is Sukkot), that it was observed in October (as Sukkot usually is), and that Pilgrims would not have celebrated a holiday that was not in the Bible (but Sukkot is in the Bible). Although Mr. Johnson claims that the first Thanksgiving was "not a religious holiday or observance," he apparently means this in a Christian sense, because he goes on to say that the first Thanksgiving was instead "a harvest festival that included feasts, sporting events, and other activities," concepts very much in keeping with the Jewish religious observance of Sukkot." See Religious Beliefs of the Pilgrims and Debunking a Popular Internet Lesson Plan.

Perhaps you would still be able to use the curriculum, and discuss it where it goes wrong?

AND on another elist there was once concern about reading chrischun books that were not in line with Torah and here was some of the advice given:

"to see that people who claim(ed) to be "strong in the Lord" failed to incorporate even the simplest of guidelines in the Bible."

"We have read the Laura Ingalls Wilder series for bed time stories as a family. We have discussed the fact that they called Sunday the sabbath, and ate pork. I have to speak point blank to her because that is her way, so I have had to tell her that our relatives & people like the Ingalls are not evil if their hearts are searching for truth. It takes some longer than others to find it, especially if the religious leader does not teach it correctly (like our background). We must love them. Reading a story about a little girl that grew up in a typical Christian family could bring much understanding about those that are still searching for truth. Just as we may read a story about a little Mormon girl, Jehovah Witness girl, or Anne Frank, we enjoy the story and learn about her experiences. The stories are not meant to convert anyone. Just sharing life experiences that may help us to understand where we are coming from in this world. I am constantly reminding her to extend grace, but I do not want to crush her discernment. I always tell her that she is right, but to react in love."

"I do try and teach my kids that we need to be kind to those who dont believe as we do but it is definately a regular struggle when it comes to christian family members who don't eat or believe the way we do. I tell my son grandma doesnt understand things the way we do and that we should love her anyways and that we cant tell her what to do or eat but it comes up often as we eat with them a couple times during the month. we are the only ones in our family who eat kosher and its hard for my son to understand why the others eat stuff that the bible says not to."

"I use to think of the unclean foods as another law (that according to our Christian Pastor we're redeemed from through Jesus), since I have realized that this is good advice from our Father that loves us. He created it, He knows what it is for. So I took it to the next step and researched the unclean animals on the list. They are so unclean it is disgusting. Amazing how our Creator designed the edible animals to have literally clean flesh. I certainly would not want to eat our vacuum filter, and that is just how I see the unclean animals. When I see pork at the store or hear of someone consuming it, I literally feel a little queazy.
Gross story - today is my sister's birthday and I asked her last night what she is going to do today. She told me her boyfriend caught a huge catfish in Wyoming. He brought it home, skinned it, and when he cut it open it had a dead bird inside. She thought it was really neat, and I am ready to toss my cookies. (good thing the conversation was on the phone and she didnt see my face) She then went on to say that he is going to cook the cat fish for her for her birthday with some crab legs! Oh, my. She is so excited that I held my tongue (and my cookies). I said a quick prayer, "YHWH, if she feels ill the next day, I will share with her, but please dont let her get too sick!"I have shared with her so much about Pagan holidays, that I didnt want to go off on unclean foods during her excitement.
I suppose children brought up respecting all scriptures have a difficult time understanding why other people don't. You may share with your son, that in our former christian church we were literally taught that NOT eating unclean foods was redeemed by Jesus - that he proclaimed ALL foods to be clean. If one chose NOT to eat certain foods that it was a lack of faith on his/her part. The OT was taught as a story of the past for the Hebrews of that time. Today, we are a new testament church and none of the laws apply to us.
If some one does not follow the scriptures, it may be that they are obediently following their religion. Please pray that more eyes, ears, and hearts be opened to receive the ENTIRE WORD of YHWH. "

OK back to me:
and just yesterday DH told me that some guy in his 30's ((yeah like that makes him an expert)) and he went out to lunch and had pork ribs and DH was telling this guy how good they taste and it's 'too' bad his wife doesn't eat pork because the Bible says not to. And this 30 something guy says, "oh they were told not to because they didn't cook it properly"

AS IF

WHAT EVS

G-D would not tell us one thing and then tell us to nevermind what I said before because I changed my mind. And don't tell me the story with the 3 sheets and unclean foods ... that was not about food rather about the 3 gentiles that were about to knock on the door and the apostle was being assured it's ok to go with them. Even I understood that before embracing my Hebrew Roots.

http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_63/2451000/2451695/1/print/tract-Torah.pdf

1 comment:

Blessed Mommy said...

Again, thank you for the thought provoking posts. How easily we celebrate holidays without knowing its orgins. I think I have some reading to do. Again thank you.